Ten Hours and a bit (and counting)...

[kproche]

A minor request --

Those of you who are making a special trip to witness the legal pronunciation this evening, it's going to be short* and sweet, probably right at the beginning of things, perhaps in place of a particular motion to which the Treasurer always Objects.

It is *not* supposed to overwhelm or completely displace the other regularly scheduled insanity that is the weekly meeting. We did the big hoopla back in 2005. So just keep that in mind for the sake of the other attendees and the restaurant, 'k?


And an answer for folks who object that marriage is only for a man and a woman because it's point is to foster procreation:

Um, no. SEX is for procreation.

Marriage is for promoting family ties and stability, both between the immediate parties to the marriage and their extended families. Always has been, according to my understanding of the history of marriage compacts. I understand how some folks might get that confused these days, since many churches teach that sex is shameful except in the context of marriage. But that's their problem.

Remember:
Sex is for procreation.
Marriage is for family.


*Short Short. As in similar to the ceremony from 1:59 to 2:10 in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxsEE5tTkcQ

Comments

[melchar.livejournal.com]

Marriage is a contract that unites property and provides tax and medical short cuts/advantages. That's about it.

It -better- not be for procreation, otherwise, Trey & I are doing it wrong. ^_^ [And IMO sex is for fun, for sharing and for closeness - among other team-building sports in that vein.]

There are 'magic word' religious ceremonies - some of which contain oaths promising - among other things - procreation. For some reason, this is ALSO called marriage.

I really wish there were 2 terms for this, because Trey & I did the one [legal one], avoided the other [religious] and have seemed to take no harm from this. But then, we have never had any plans to be breeders.

With that in mind, I send hopes and wishes that you 2 will be at -least- as content & happy as Trey and I - for all the decades to come. If you manage to be even -happier- then that's perfectly fine with me. ^_^

[kproche.livejournal.com]

All of what you say is true.

However -- if answering an outraged person who pushes the procreation argument, I think the very simple Sex/Family construction is succinct enough and points to the heart of the objection in a way that is direct, to the point, uses their own terms and thus might actually bring them up short against their assumptions.

[melchar.livejournal.com]

Putting it that way, you are right. However, when confronted over that, my contrary natures asserts itself and insists I then ask the [usually yours is the logical, short and clear response.

With me, my contrary nature asserts itself and I then ask them [when breeding is brought up] about barren couples, old folks marrying, those childless by choice - and ask them then why are -we- allowed to marry. [And then I bring up divorce - and why that is allowed.] And I'm sure that -someday- there will be an answer to these questions that is something other than a startled, deer-in-headlights expression.

[soapbox time] Just FYI IMO the only marriage plans I've ever seen that make sense for raising healthy kids are line marriages [ala Heinlein], or close-knits clans with multiple generations caring for the kids so that in the case of one parent's death, there isn't the huge gaping hole left that there is in our culture. [off soapbox now]